Re: graphics/lcms not quite removal proposal, graphics/gqview-devel removal proposal

[Greg Troxel <gdt%lexort.com@localhost>]

Andrew Randrianasulu <randrianasulu%gmail.com@localhost> writes:

> On Mon, Mar 9, 2026 at 2:49 PM Greg Troxel <gdt%lexort.com@localhost> wrote:
>>
>> Andrew Randrianasulu <randrianasulu%gmail.com@localhost> writes:
>>
>> > On Sun, Mar 8, 2026 at 6:49 PM Greg Troxel <gdt%lexort.com@localhost> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Andrew Randrianasulu <randrianasulu%gmail.com@localhost> writes:
>> >>
>> >> > вс, 8 мар. 2026 г., 16:42 Greg Troxel <gdt%lexort.com@localhost>:
>> >> >
>> >> >>   The gqview-devel distfile is from 2006 and all the cool kids have long
>> >> >>   since moved to geeqie.
>> >> >
>> >> > And geeqie moved to gtk3 (quite heavy to build from scratch on underpowered
>> >> > arches).
>> >>
>> >> Super underpowered for gtk3; at least it's not in rust.   Are you saying
>> >> gtk3 takes more than 12h to build on some computer you actually use?
>> >>
>> >> I don't know how to interpret your reply.  Are you saying that you
>> >> personally have gqview-devel installed and use it?
>> >
>> > I tried it (geeqie) on qemu-system-sparc and it died trying to rebuild
>> > gcc10. It was loooong wait.....
>>
>> You have declined to answer the question, so will assume you are not
>> actually using gqview-devel.
>
>
> Correct. I am used to Linux where -devel package is for developer's
> files like headers and static libs.
>
> In this case I guess name means that this version of gqview was not
> from last release, but from some time after.

pkgsrc isn't GNU/Linux :-) and the -devel suffix has ~always meant
interim versions not declared as releases.  We have tended to label
these -snapshot when they're just a git commit, vs when they are
releases in an unstable series, not intended for general use.

It's fairly common for an abandoned project to end up with foo-devel as
the best version to use in pkgsrc, when there's been work after the last
release.

In this case, the DESCR for gqview-devel is clear:

  This package is the unstable version of gqview.
  gqview is obsolete, and has been replaced by a fork, geeqie.

> But honestly, this kind of _altitude_ beat any desire to help here out of me.

It's not attitude.  I was reaching the point where asking a specific
question again seemed unlikely to produce a useful result, so I decided
to stop trying, because it wastes everyone else's time.

The point of removal proposals is that there is a belief that there are
zero or very few actual users.  Thus the question is *if there is a
user*, not if someone out there thinks that it is possible that someone
else might want to use it.  I asked if there were users; you spoke up
without being clear, I asked you if you are using it, and you again
commented about something that is actually off topic (geeqie), without
answering the question.  It was remarkably hard to get a straight answer
about a very simple question.

The help I was looking for was solely checking if my guess that there
are zero users was wrong.